Jeni’s New Trousers

This month Ben and Jeni enjoy a chat in the garden. It’s a beautiful summers eve so we’re joined by birdsong and the occasional passing ambulance. 

As we’re so relaxed we talk about sleep and how people dream, those all important 2.5 seconds we have to change our lives, and whether old dogs can teach us new tricks. 

Special thanks to Becca Gaskell (@becca_gaskell) for editing our podcast.

Theme music: Mid-Air Machine – ‘Streets of Sant’Ivo {107 & 4/4}’ – under CC BY-SA 4.0. Available on


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